…..and the witch hunt continues

so the police have interviewed us, we turned up at 10.30am and managed to get out of there with just enough time to pick the children up at 3.30pm, I have never been so angry and upset by anything in my life, as they read out the things that our son has apparently accused us of I could not believe my ears, it sounded like something out of a book or a film, to be asked if I had subjected another life to these appalling things was degrading and upsetting, we are suspicious though, he was out of our care and in an idyllic situation for any child for 10 days prior to him being interviewed so we do not see how any thing he says can be taken as evidence, there was far to much time for his story to be corrupted by those around him. We have not been charged, there is no evidence to do so but apparently the investigation is on going, although it took them over 3 weeks to talk to us any way so goodness knows how long the whole thing will take them, it would be a surprise to us if they could find their way out of a paper bag.

there has been no contact from any one from SS at all we are supposed to be having a core assessment done on the other children, SS4 has not even been to see our youngest at his preschool, and from what we understand all the children have to visited in their place of education, I have asked the preschool every day and they have heard nothing from these people, although they do tell me that most of the SS hate dealing with them because not only are they good at their jobs they also know the SS workers jobs inside out and if procedure is not followed then it is not got away with, we are happy with this!!

we are tired of all of this, it is taking up all of our spare time, we have no real relaxation time, and sleep is hard to come by.

our two complaints have gone off this week so we shall see how that goes.

Its the spanish inquisition!!

it has been a while since our last update, we have been struggling with things a little, keeping our heads above water has been hard. we are back with a vengeance though and much research in to the practices and the codes of ethics that the SS are supposed to follow. we did find a rather disturbing piece of training knowledge in one of the books that we have, it is the job of the SS to know that ALL parents are guilty the challenge is in getting them to admit it! also rather disturbingly if you have homophobic tendencies or traits you are with out a doubt homosexual. the basic upshot of this training manual is there is no innocence and the more you try and say you are innocent the more guilty you are, maybe they will reintroduce the ducking stool?

my husband had a meeting with a load of these witch hunters the other day and was informed by SS4 that a mile is a long way, and stealing is not really stealing if it is done with in the home, it is a shame that the police do not agree with this woman. her boss has been on the phone with us and has made apologetic noises about it, but still refraining from accepting any kind of responsibility for the misconduct of her staff. SS4 also turned around and told my husband that she was concerned that he did not see what he had done wrong, we find it appalling that this woman can have made her mind up that we are guilty with out ever having spoken to us about anything, but taking the word of a vindictive person who made the initial false allegation and the lies of an 11 year old boy who has confessed to being a liar to the SS on numerous occasions.

we have finally heard from the police and have been asked to go and give our comments to the information they have in an informal chat at the station, we are a little nervous about it all but as we have done nothing wrong we have nothing to fear, and it is not the charges that SS4 had threatened us with, as they have been at this now for over three weeks we can only assume that if they had anything to charge us with we would know by now, and it would not be an informal chat that we were being invited to, I can only imagine that it would not be so much inviting as being collected if they had any actual concerns.

we have elevated our complaint to stage two and we are also sending it to the governing body of SS HCPC ( health care professionals council) and then we are going to send it to the BASW (british association of social workers). we are still refusing to lay down and take this quietly!!

we have a meeting next week to decide on something or another, although so far the only decision we have actually made is that we need to bring this organisation to its knees, it is time that these people realised that they are playing with peoples lives, and leaving a trail of destruction behind them that takes years, if not a life time to clear up, and they sit opposite us in the waiting rooms and corridors having pleasant conversations about how many bottles of wine they had at the weekend in the garden while enjoying the lovely weather, while we quietly sit there holding in our breath and wondering what lies are about to escape the lips of these inhumane, insensitive people.

Day 14 – Care?

we had a quiet weekend with the children, baked some cakes and generally relaxed. now back to reality and life.

On friday we spent most of the day trying to contact someone in the SS office, apparently it is normal practice to have no one in, no manager, no anybody, after a day of pestering we were finally routed through to someone in charge, she was going to speak to the team involved with our case and try and find out what was going on and why no one was speaking to us. We did have one of them call this morning but the line was ‘bad’ and kept cutting out, making conversation particularly difficult, and as for getting answers out of these people ……….. well that is just not happening. We will be contacting the people above this woman tomorrow to attempt to have our concerns addressed. we have had no update about how our son is since tuesday last week, we are not happy!

we had a reply to the complaints we sent in, the general up shot of that message would be; We are the SS, if we wrote it it must be right.

There has been a general lack of interest in what we have said, none of the issues we have raised have been addressed, or even acknowledged, so we now have to escalate this to the next level. Our response to the letter will be written in the next couple of days to action the movement in to level 2, this involves much the same kind of thing as level 1, I have found that most people receive much the same response at all 3 levels, this is, we can only assume because it is an internal investigation at all three levels, objective?? professional??

we have been reading the SS code of ethics, yes they do have one!! it would appear that they have forgotten these while dealing with us.

while the SS have been ripping our family apart with no justified reason, just the word of a vindictive woman who has a history of mental issues, certified and under observation on and off for many many mental problems, here are some of the things that they have been ignoring;

this is a report of a little girl who died from violence over the summer;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-19456136

 

this is an on going problem, and they have our child!;

http://www.bnp.org.uk/news/regional/126-children-sex-abuse-cases-east-lancashire-care-homes

there are so many cases of children dying due to violent parents or violent partners of parents, why is it that these cases are not being picked up, but some false claim is put in and some over inflated woman with a group of minions barges in to our house and takes our son based upon this, how many tiny children are laying in their bed petrified tonight unable to sleep? but no one is helping them. these people are too busy completing cases with less paper work, and no evidence.

this system needs changing, it is called the care system, its a shame that is the thing they lack most.

Day 10 – part 2 more scary stuff

Well many phone calls later we finally manged to get hold of our SS worker, after ….. “she might be on leave”…… “I don’t know if she is in today” …… “she might be in a meeting” …… It went on for a while, SS’s mobile was rung a few times too, only after stamping our feet did she call back, she was an unhappy SS though, she did not like that we had made a fuss, she then went on to refuse to answer questions with anything other than vagueries and evasion, I persisted with my question and she hung up! What reasonable behaviour for a professional! We are still no wiser, our SS worker doesn’t like me in the slightest, we know that much.
We have collected research materials today, we have a load of books that are for the purpose of training social workers, so on with reading this evening!
We have found a couple more scary articles;

http://www.aims.org.uk/Journal/Vol21No2/childAbuse.htm

This raises some interesting points and the most important one is the title.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-511609/How-social-services-paid-bonuses-snatch-babies-adoption.html

This one is the scariest thing I have ever had the misfortune of reading.

We are hopefully getting some way to sorting out some legal help. So onwards we go, there are forms to fill in an and post, and emails to send.
Well on with some research in to the way a social worker should behave!

day 10 – an interesting, scary little report

“The government has asked for a 40% increase in adoption and through public service agreements, some councils are fully meeting this and gaining massive financial rewards and “stars” for doing so. A result of all this has been to strongly motivate social workers to procure children suitable for adoption even if it means splitting up the very families they are meant to support and protect. They are not just trying to get children who are in care adopted, they are deliberately unjustly taking children from good decent homes on trumped up charges of abuse, and having them adopted. It is like an industry, but horrifically the commodities involved are children.”

http://www.justice-for-families.org.uk/documents/family_law/12to16marchdemo.php [accessed on 13/09/2012]

I have just found this very frightening report, how can this be right! financial gain for ripping families apart!

we have just spoken to the office apparently the entire staff quota is out of the office, no workers no managers, no duty managers, just the receptionist! no one is talking to us, in our opinion this is just them buying more time to fabricate a few more lies.

day 9 – all and mostly nothing

another day of not very much to report, we have had our advocate in touch a couple of times as our SS worker has not been listening, AGAIN, so this has caused a lot of confusion for our advocate, but it does show the advocate what we have been putting up with.

SS4 spoke to the others at school today, from what we can work out the questions have been tailored to give the most negative view of everything, nothing of what the kids do in their spare time, nothing of the things that we do as a family, nothing of what they do when they get home, only what chores they do, as I am aware doing chores is a normal part of growing up, is this not how we learn to look after ourselves? how to keep a home?

another letter of complaint has gone off today and the 1st has been with them for 2 days, 8 left and I am expecting a reply! we have emailed a few more MPs as yet no answers.

as yet we have not not heard anything from the interview that our son had with the police, we are just sitting her waiting to hear from someone to find out if we are going to be charged with something, we still don’t know what we may be charged with. I have lost my job because of this, the damage lies can do!

we are just caught in limbo at the moment, we don’t know wether we are coming or going and all the while the fire is being added to by SS workers who refuse to see that someone who is not in full control of their mental faculties might tell a malicious lie, this liar I will deal with in due course, first thing to do at the moment is to sort out the mess she has caused.

well on with the next day some normal life starts creeping back in tomorrow, but things will be over shadowed with this for some time yet.

day 8 – a little up, a little down

today we met our advocate, she spent an hour trying to familiarise herself with our case, she left our company with more questions than she arrived with and her head spinning, there is so much to tell and it just keeps going on and on. we are hoping that having this person with us will curb the amount of fabricated material that appears on our reports. we really recommend to anyone suffering this kind of thing find your self you local advocacy service.

today was also the day that our son was to be interviewed by the police, we do not yet know the out come of this although we are both worried about the out come as we still don’t know what it is that we are accused of. So we sit here waiting for the worst.

tomorrow SS4 has decided she is meeting our children at their school, how much more must these little people endure before they are left alone, there is no where in their little lives left that is safe any more, these SS workers are the ultimate bullies, they infiltrate every part of your life and leave you no place to hide, or escape.

there is not really a lot to report for today, we emailed a load more people, mostly MPs, looking for some support, and some answers. now on with the waiting, these people don’t answer that quick.

day 7. we really do live in the matrix!

we have made the realisation today that all SS workers are like agent smith from the matrix, they have no individual identity and want only to engulf all that stands in front of them.

we have taken a little time off over the weekend and spent the time with our other children, much as we are trying to fight this, it is no use if we to it do the detriment of the rest of our children.

we were invited to a meeting at our sons school to day, it was called a planning meeting, although we are unsure as to what we were “planning” we were told a lot of things, and informed that nothing was going to change, we have how ever been told that our son has settled in to his new “home” and is happy and doing well and he has settled in to school and is no giving any cause for concern, we are confused by these two facts as if we had been as awful as we are being told that we have been then surely he would be struggling with things some what? but no he is happy and settled, apparently he wants no contact with us, and will not answer any questions when asked about being in touch with us. I am sure this was an attempt to goad a reaction out of us, we held fast. when we arrived we were shocked at the insensitivity of the SS workers as they appeared to think that we would like to engage in some light and entertaining small talk, just what exactly is it that you discuss with the woman who steals children?

we have spent the rest of the day running around trying to find some support from somewhere but so far we are hitting the wall of “thats not our area of expertise” apparently no one is willing to help us.

on the up side we do have a meeting with our new found advocate tomorrow, so a small move to a little support in our corner, we desperately need some sort of legal help, legal help that does not think that the SS is right in what they are doing even though they do not know the first thing about our case.

our letter of complaint went off today so from tomorrow they have 10 days to get back in touch with us so we can elevate it to the next level.

well on with tomorrow and hopefully a little help in our corner, we are getting tired and feeling desperate.

day 4; we have no rights

it is depressing to think that we have fewer rights than a pedophile, we are not even allowed to know exactly what we have done wrong, we are not given the chance to fight these allegations we are just being told “sit tight” apparently the police are going to decide wether there is a case to be looked in to when they speak to our son next week, but until that point we do not get to know what we are accused of, and then it will probably be a knock on the door and criminal charges because I’m informed today they always believe the child, this child who has admitted to lying to the SS before, and his school, and his friends parents, adding to that who will have been out of the house for over a week by the time the police talk to him, I have read the reports, there are thousands, the kid is taken and then is filmed after they have been prepared to say what it is that the SS want them to, why else would it take nearly 10 days to conduct an interview with them, it does not take over a week to set up a camera. after inquiring what happens if they find nothing in what he is saying I was informed they would not be returning him home but keeping him on the merit of emotional abuse, there is no legal definition for this so it is used as a blanket term when they can find nothing else, there must be over a million cases of unborn children being subjected to emotional abuse on SS records, but they can get away with using this term because there are no boundaries to it, they remove new born babies from new mums with no more than that excuse, who could have imagined that such horrific acts could be carried out by a system we are told is there to help and support families, so far in our experience it is only after ripping families apart.

there is little to report today, we have finished our letter of complaint which will go in to the post tomorrow, and off in several emails to as many people as we can get it to that might make a difference, our county councillor has been to the house and has asked that we keep him up to date with proceedings after I emailed him about this whole thing so it shall be going to him!

we found this page while doing our research it may allow for some venting of anger, http://nameshamesocialworkers.blogspot.co.uk/2008/08/shame-your-social-worker.html?m=1

day 3 of the battle

busy day to day!

unfortunately the legal help this time was a no go, the basic up shot of the consultation was roll over and play dead, don’t make a complaint, don’t disagree with any thing that the SS say or do, the meeting was incredibly frustrating as nothing we said was really listened to and we were for some reason continually asked “how long is a piece of string?” to which I really wanted do ask is it long enough to wrap round your neck? I did resist though! so now we are on to the next number we were given and will be giving our complaint letter a final read through be fore we send it off the the SS designated complaints officer and all the council members we have been bugging too.

the SS meeting for the other children went with out a hitch, we pinned our new SS worker, now referred to as SS4, down with many many questions that we had about things so half her meeting taken up with answering questions. but on the upside she expressed at the end of the meeting she had no concerns regarding the rest of our children.

we asked SS4 why our son had been removed again and we were told that the details of the allegations can not be disclosed to us as it may confuse the investigation! SS4 then proceeded to ask us why we thought our son had been removed, we have no answer to this as we can not work it out, we have been told that it was based upon what was observed upon the group of four that invaded our home, this we find interesting as they stated they were taking our son before they entered our home, maybe our door is not clean enough? we can not fight this. SS4 has informed us that our son has requested not to have contact with us and is happy in the foster home that he has been placed in and does not wish to ever come home.

our other children are doing ok now, my daughter is untrusting of any one and brought tears to my eyes when she asked if she would be taken away too, how do we answer that? we can not assure her that it won’t happen.

we are still struggling a little with things, especially the lack of understanding of what has happened, and we are really worried about these apparent allegations as we are told the police are investigating and we will be spoken to, we are now nearly a week later and we have heard nothing even though we have called everyone we can think of to try and find out what is happening, we have left messages every where for people to email/call/visit us we need answers.